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Candon- 05-15-2008
He's at it again with the Russian hero worship while us gooney Canucks can only win with our Socialist and defensive Team Play...lol....he's been given a much bigger profile this year on the IIHF site....thanks Fasel u phoney fark...

dryden- 05-15-2008
I've yet to read this article yet but already the guy is making my blood boil again.

it's always been fairly easy to see over the years how he grew up in the old CCCP era and still isn't over it.

So many in that age group on that side of the pond are.

Lucy- 05-15-2008


No offense guys but why do you not keep it all in the same thread..........this is the third one ... ihwcforums/confused1.gif

walnut- 05-15-2008
QUOTE (Lucy @ May 16, 2008 01:50 am)
No offense guys but why do you not keep it all in the same thread..........this is the third one ... ihwcforums/confused1.gif

Of course there is an economy class thread, a business class thread, and an executive class thread...we hang on every word! ihwcforums/bangHead.gif wacko.gif

schmeep- 05-15-2008
lol, which one is this?

walnut- 05-15-2008
This thread is still waiting at the gate to take off!;)
Zaugg just can't get over the way it was _perceived_ to be, like dryden said, in the CCCP era.
Maybe Zaugg is a genius, because it is tragic to have his tripe prominently featured on the IIHF site!

Candon- 05-15-2008
QUOTE (Lucy @ May 16, 2008 01:50 am)
No offense guys but why do you not keep it all in the same thread..........this is the third one ... ihwcforums/confused1.gif

Solid point princess!!!....my bad smile.gif

Candon- 05-15-2008
QUOTE (walnut @ May 16, 2008 03:21 am)
This thread is still waiting at the gate to take off!;)
Zaugg just can't get over the way it was _perceived_ to be, like dryden said, in the CCCP era.
Maybe Zaugg is a genius, because it is tragic to have his tripe prominently featured on the IIHF site!

ROFLMAO!!!!....very funny nut!

dryden- 05-15-2008
oh God, i just read the article.

it's so erroneous and full of lack of hockey knowledge and history.............................complete and utter bullshit for the most part.

it's actually an insult to Canadian hockey in all honesty.

he doesn't have a f'in clue does he? not a f'in clue.

God.................................his worst ever.

Hands down.

Guy should be fired.

"Canada have become better Russian players"

What horseshit!!

Those guys have learned so much from Canadian hockey about what it takes to be a real hockey player it's not funny.

They owe us............(and the bills are still coming in).....................a lot!!

Vimy4- 05-16-2008
Zug is an idiot. He needs to be curb stomped. Never in the history of any sport has a so called "expert" so completely and totally missed the point. The grea-*test*-('") hockey players who have ever played the game are Canadian. The grea-*test*-('") teams have been Canadian. Ovechkin is a fine player but he's not even worthy of carrying #66's jock. The 87 CC TC would have wrapped up a 7 game series against the CCCP in 5 games. The 72 TC won the Summit Series on Russian ice.

Zog is a zit who needs to be popped.

Zereks- 05-16-2008
LOL smile.gif Nobody is against you taking pride in your hockey history smile.gif I just remember reading Montreal newspapers 2 days before the game 1 in 1972, wow, they sounded like dryden now smile.gif))))))))))))) Anyway, guys, you must be pro-canadian, but give some respect to other nations, don't be so jelous, like ladies smile.gif there are lots of people in different countries that play good hockey, thank you for sharing this game early in the 20th century, thanks for teaching others, but since 1972, you were clearly not the only best smile.gif

Zereks- 05-16-2008
Oh, and Vimy4 - "would have" is not exactly "did" smile.gif I read something about statistics here recently, dryden was implying it's good to use stats sometimes to rebuff someone, do your math then if you started with 1972 smile.gif and don't forget to include club series too, remember Scott Bowman saying "we cann't say which hockey is better until we play them on the club level", well he did smile.gif))

Sch 12 rus 0- 05-16-2008
Ur Russian League was top heavy, really top heavy, in the 70's / 80's...( STILL IS to a lesser extent ) Moscow's Red Army ( ya ya ...CSKA -M ) won ...the Russian equivalent of the Stanley Cup ...year after year...EASILY...That Red Army team was pretty much CCCP , but when u sent Red Army overseas to play our club teams , u even augmented them with a few more top snipers , who weren't red army, but were CCCP...

This is very much an ' apples vs. oranges' argument...and dont forget too , that back in the 70's ...the NHL was further watered down by the rival WHA...

Hells bells, the WHA's Winnipeg Jets, led by Bobby Hull...crushed CCCP to the tune of 7-2 one time...

So what woulda happened if we sent our best NHL + WHA stars, to play ur club teams eh ? Everyone save Red Army...woulda got slaughtered !

dryden- 05-16-2008
QUOTE (Zereks @ May 16, 2008 11:05 am)
LOL smile.gif Nobody is against you taking pride in your hockey history smile.gif I just remember reading Montreal newspapers 2 days before the game 1 in 1972, wow, they sounded like dryden now smile.gif))))))))))))) Anyway, guys, you must be pro-canadian, but give some respect to other nations, don't be so jelous, like ladies smile.gif there are lots of people in different countries that play good hockey, thank you for sharing this game early in the 20th century, thanks for teaching others, but since 1972, you were clearly not the only best smile.gif

we do give respect to other countries, that's the problem.

you guys(Russian hockey observers) don't return the respect.

and au contraire..........................since 1972 we clearly have shown we are better then Russia..................................most especially since Russia can't send playing together all year round teams of all stars against rag tag groups of put together "b" teams and college kids from Canada anymore.

Now that Russia has to play by the same rules and realties as we had to...................Canada has been shown to clearly be the better hockey nation and players.

There isn't a knowledgeble hockey observer that wouldn''t admit that to being the truth................the results prove it beyond any grain of dispute.

Your last post which contains the typical Russian refusal to acknowledge obvious truth born of results shows you exactly the type of dis-respect i am talking about.

and also the type of bullshit that Zaugg is going on about.

Time to give some well earned respect to Canadian hockey Russia fans...............................we've proven time and time again we are better then you guys in this game.

You may be pretty skaters but theres a hell of a lot more to this game then that.

To deny what is so obviously true is called ...........................disrespect.


And i don't respect that.

And i'm sick of it.


i would have so loved to have had our best playing together year round like those old CCCP teams.......................................we would have won 80% of all the games.

The old CCCP(as much as i admired their team play level) was a myth, a manafactured construction that Canada could have produced and produced at a higher level any day of the week if we had wanted to run things that way.

The attitiude of the Russian fans just sickens me.

zero respect.

Zereks- 05-16-2008
QUOTE (dryden @ May 16, 2008 01:13 pm)
QUOTE (Zereks @ May 16, 2008 11:05 am)
LOL smile.gif Nobody is against you taking pride in your hockey history smile.gif I just remember reading Montreal newspapers 2 days before the game 1 in 1972, wow, they sounded like dryden now smile.gif))))))))))))) Anyway, guys, you must be pro-canadian, but give some respect to other nations, don't be so jelous, like ladies smile.gif there are lots of people in different countries that play good hockey, thank you for sharing this game early in the 20th century, thanks for teaching others, but since 1972, you were clearly not the only best smile.gif

we do give respect to other countries, that's the problem.

you guys(Russian hockey observers) don't return the respect.

Who did not??? Some trolls here sometimes? Come on, after the last game of the 1972 Series, even after this unexpected loss, one Russian player (Anisin) went to the Canadian locker room and gave personally to Esposito (Phil, the one who hates Soviets and Russians so much, but was an excellent player) a special cup they made. I wonder how many guys would be able to show respect and admiration of the adversary's skills right after a pretty bad loss?

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